Monday, November 16, 2009

Problem Of Evil Challenge



In early October, my girlfriend, Nicole, our downstairs neighbor, Suzanne, and I attended a debate between University of North Carolina Religious Studies Professor and bestselling author Bart Ehrman and conservative speaker cum erstwhile Christian apologist, Dinesh D'Souza, focusing on The Problem of Evil. This debate has raged for years (centuries) but I walked away with an idea that I think might be a debate killer on this issue,a philosophical silver bullet.

The Christian god is described as the omnipotent, or all-powerful, omniscient, or all-knowing, omni-benevolent, or all-good and all-loving creator of the universe and all that is within it, including the laws that govern it.

Additionally, most Christian denominations believe that god values free will.

As we can see from casual observation, there is evil, in the form of suffering, in the world.

Some of this suffering is in the form of "natural evil" such as natural disasters and disease. Some of the suffering is in the form of "moral evil," or bad things that we human beings do to one another.

The quandary that has plagued this view of god and which was the subject of the recent debate between Ehrman and D'Souza is summed up thusly: If god is all-loving and all-good then why does he allow evil to exist? If he permits its existence then can he really be described as all-good? If he can't stop it, then he can't be all-powerful. Ehrman and D'Souza debated well but never got to the heart of the issue.

On the issue of natural evil, if god could create any possible world, could he not have created one in which there was no natural evil or suffering but in which free will is preserved? Could he not have made a world without tsunamis and without AIDS and without drought and famine but within which humans could still make choices regarding moral evil?

Even if death is a necessity (which there is no reason to think that it would have to be for a god who can bring about any conceivable eventuality), it could occur instantly and painlessly for all. Even if he were to create a world devoid of natural evil, that does not mean that moral evil would necessarily cease to exist, so the absence of natural evil would not negate free will or the ability to choose to do moral evil. Even if there were no tornadoes or floods, you could still steal a candy bar from the store or covet your neighbor's wife.

However, this is not the main point of my argument. The misguided concept that moral evil is a necessary condition of existence is the crux of my argument.

First a little thought exercise.

1. Imagine if a person were to take a survey of 1000 people concerning their food preferences.

2. On this survey, the participants are asked to rate their preferences for a variety of different foods on a scale of 1 to 100. A score of 100 means that the participant could eat that food just about every day and that it is one of their favorites. A score of 1 means that the participant has a deep loathing for that food and would only eat it if they were facing certain starvation.

3. Imagine that out of the 1000 participants, 100 reported that that beets rated a 1, meaning that they would have to be near death to eat them.

4. Now, additionally imagine if the 100 participants who rated beets as a 1 were separated from the rest of the group and taken into a cafeteria and offered the choice of several different foods; pizza, tacos, hamburgers, tofu, hot dogs, chicken breast, grilled vegetables and, lastly, beets.

5. Not surprisingly, none of our participants would choose to eat the beets.

Did offering them these foods in any way deprive the participants of their free will? Were they not able to choose any of the foods offered? Limiting the pool of participants in the experiment in no way limited their ability to choose freely of the foods offered.

If god is omniscient, then he, by definition, is able to foresee what each of the persons that he choose to create will do after being created. It seems that without this ability, there would be no such thing as “prophesy,” for in order for god to predict the future through his chosen human mouthpieces (prophets), he would first have to have the ability to peer into the future.

By definition, an omni-powerful god would be able to create an infinite number of people. Out of this infinite set, there would be some who would rate a 1 on their natural predilection towards perpetuating moral evil. Out of an infinite number of potential humans, there would also be some who would choose to do what god wills and turn away from moral evil. If god lacked the ability to create (out of an infinite set of possibilities) any humans that would freely choose to follow his will, then, by definition, he lacks omnipotence.

You may now be seeing why I bothered with the imaginary food survey. Just as within our imaginary set of survey participants there were some who avoided beets. Out of an infinite set of potential people, there would be some number who would choose not to do things that are morally evil. Remember we are talking about an infinite set, completely boundless in number or in attributes. Within an infinite set, all conceivable possibilities and combinations of attributes would exist.

Think of our original pool of 1000 survey participants as our potential cafeteria visitors. Out of these, we chose only to invite those who we knew would avoid beets to come to the cafeteria to continue the experiment. With his omniscience, could not god only create the people that he knows will choose to avoid moral evil without impinging upon their free will? After all, the experimenter in the food survey did not interfere with the participants' ability to choose to eat beets in the cafeteria. He merely selected only those that he knew would avoid this choice of their own volition. By creating only those who would choose not to do moral evil, god could express his omni-benevolence by removing moral evil from the world while in no way interfering with free will. Since this is not the reality that we observe in the world, then it must be that there is some limit either to gods omni-benevolence or his omnipotence.

To some degree, if he exists, god must already make some choices about whom, out of an infinite number of potential creations, he chooses to create or not to create. If not, then there would be an infinite number of human beings. We know that the world population is around 6.7 billion...Although I was never great at math, I am pretty sure that this is a finite number. He must also choose which attributes to give people. I do not have wings, so does this mean that I am deprived of the free will to choose to fly without the aid of machinery?

So to sum it up, god must have made the choice to allow moral (as well as natural) evil to exist in the world or must have been unable to stop it.

While this is not proof that a god does not exist in some form, it certainly casts some serious doubts that an omnipotent, omniscient, omni-benevolent god who also values free will exists.

I tried to explain this concept to both Nicole, who is an armchair Christian, but knows very little about her purported faith, and to Suzanne, who is a reluctantly agnostic, lapsed Catholic who can't quite let go of her ties to religion. Neither of them could grasp the idea, so I ask you, Dear Reader, to let me know if there is some flaw in my logic.

6 comments:

  1. tsunami's

    (does not own and without AIDS)

    very good though.

    xoxoxo,
    hannah

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  2. a flaw? no... a counterpoint for thought, not for god. i'm no christian but just for the sake of argument... evil exists to give us perspective. that perspective in turn enables us to use our freewill. our experiences in life create our future, daily. moral evil? we reacted to 911 by becoming closer to our loved ones, more protective of cherished moments, and renewed patriotism. we reacted to Katrina by opening our homes, our wallets, extending it even to the stranded homeless animals. if it were not for those evils some people may not have made the life changing decisions they have. suffering exists to help make the good moments good. without pain how is there pleasure? without risk what is loss? so it stands to reason that a god, a creator, a what-have-you would not only include but insist on the existence of evil so that the existing would learn and grow and (horribly optimistic) actually live. as for it being a conscious omni-everything choice, well, it's a choice... no one said it had to be a good choice. in the end i'll share what i believe... life is about balance. we have good and bad. up and down. we have to have a perspective, a standard we can measure by... a truth in life to make up for all of the lies we tell ourselves to get by. after all, what would life be without the ache? ;)

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  3. I wrestle with the whole "why does God allow evil" question myself. So I hope I can make some sense here.

    My biggest argument with what you have said is your assumption that because God allows us to hurt he isn't all loving. Bear with me because I'm in serious mommy-mode so my example comes from there.

    When your girls were learning to walk did you bubble wrap every square inch of the house and make them wear helmets, knee, and arm pads? No (I hope). You let them try and fall and they probably got hurt. You probably made sure the big dangers were covered (stairs blocked off, stove/heat out of reach, etc), but you knew that for them to learn and grow they had to try and fail and sometimes hurt. You still loved them, though you let them get hurt.

    I think humanity is the same way. For us to grow and become better people we have to hurt sometimes. But, that doesn't mean God does not love us. In fact, he made sure the big danger (Hell) was taken care of by sending Christ to die for us.

    I think the reason God created man with freewill that included the option of beets, er ..uh.. I mean evil is because it was something He did not have. Sure He could make everyone so they always chose the moral high road, but then man would not actually be choosing Him.

    As frustrating as our children are when they choose to do things we don't agree with, life would be pretty boring if they didn't take chances and act out a little. We still love them when they do, and it makes the proud moments even better when they choose things on their own that make us happy.

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  4. Hannah (Grammar Nazi),

    I fixed the error. Thank you for pointing it out.

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  5. Michelle,

    Thank you for your insightful, honest, and well-articulated comments.

    Your analogy about being a caring parent and realizing that your kids will be hurt when learning to walk is interesting but not really applicable to the situation at hand.

    God is supposedly an omni being. I am not. I did not create the world in which my daughters were born. If I had, there would be a lot less beige, ecru, eggshell and off-white in it. I let my daughters get hurt when they were learning to walk because there was no reasonable way to avoid that happening. God, being an omni being could have created a set of circumstances in which there was no suffering, without negating free will, as outlined in the original post.

    What you and anonymous 1 have described is the idea that suffering and natural evil are good for character building and appreciation of the positive things in life. I guess that I don't see how a little terrified girl in Africa having her genitals mutilated, a woman being brutally raped and viciously murdered by a sociopath or a man being trapped in his attic and drowning in sewage when the levees in New Orleans broke make me a better person. If these things are requirements for my personal growth, then I would rather not grow. If self-improvement lies down such a dark and dismal path then I will stay put and wear my flaws like a medal. If this is god's plan for salvation, I will relish in my damnation.

    You say that god could choose to make it so that everyone could take the moral high road but that by doing so, they would not be choosing him. Why is that? If this is so, does a creator that creates a system that is full of worldly suffering followed by the likely eternal continuation of suffering in hell for all eternity for many of the people he creates deserve praise?

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  6. no, no he doesn't... that's why christianity ain't so much my thang. doesn't make any sense. one dude in charge of every last little thing? far more believable that such a creator would be a woman with the multitasking required to do such a thing. that's why a pantheistic belief system is more applicable to my spiritual expression. one deity in charge of one thing at a time with a couple in charge of overseeing. balance.

    as far as the evils as necessary thing we were addressing earlier. in allowing free will, extremism is going to happen. in order for someone to freely choose the ultimate good (in this case a life of servitude to god) they must also be capable of choosing the ultimate bad. everything happens for a reason, whether it's a lesson for the masses or for an individual, there is something to be learned from every moment. i appreciate not being born in africa and having to fight to keep my genitals intact. and while the losses are great and grow every day, i have learned a lot on how to keep myself safe by not making the mistakes that have gotten some killed. so at least it's not in vain. as for Katrina and the levees... that hurricane changed my life. if it weren't for the devastation of that town i would never have met one of my greatest friends and mentors. he ended up here after he and his family lost their home. so maybe it's just my disgustingly eternal optimism or maybe it happened for a bajillion different reasons and what had to happen was HUGE! and my reason was my buddy and his little girl who have brought so much happiness and pride to my life. and don't be so quick to martyr yourself and go relishing... not all extremes are there just for YOU! believe it or not there are those out there with harder heads than even yours. i kid... sort of! but you know, sometimes it takes a nudge, sometimes, a crowbar... >8)

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